tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24855131854080936682012-02-16T04:12:46.999-08:00This blog is a focussed experiment. I wanted to test my ability to publish and produce a taut multi-media blog on something. I attended TAM7 in July. It struck me as the perfect 4-day crash course. The "course" didn't go as well as I hoped, but I learned a lot. I'm continuting to update as I have the opportunity to - eventually I'll have covered the entirety of my experience at the conference.Jedi School Drop Outhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10308801339937940368noreply@blogger.comBlogger431100tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2485513185408093668.post-40583535212589520002009-11-19T23:52:00.000-08:002009-11-19T23:53:02.442-08:00

Okay, I conceed. I was foiled in part by really bad audio on the magic in skepticism panel, which resulted in me taking a break from working towards finishing.  Then I got happily sucked into the skeptical vortex of Skeptic North.  And somewhere in there I promised myself that I was soon going to hunker down and finish what I started.  More recently I shifted to telling myself that I'd get

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I was pretty damned excited to hear Joe Nickell talk and Jennifer Ouellette (SEO pros would be appalled at how much I'm linking back to my own post about her) turned out to be my surprise favourite speaker, but if there was one person who I was excited about from the start who did not let-down in the least, it was Adam Savage from MythBusters.Adam's presentation was unique. Everyone else – to a

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While Friday had been an entertaining day, and even had my favourite individual speaker (Jennifer Oullette) Saturday was the best day of the conference.It started off well with the surreal SGU breakfast, and the first speaker of the day set us off in grand fashion. (That said, it was a dense talk requiring an ability to maintain early points through to the end. The distilling of the details here

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Just a small acknowledgement that I'm skipping the first event of Saturday morning – the SGU breakfast. I already covered it in a previous post. Jay premiered his film and Rebecca got married.But the other thing I wanted to mention, I've finally solved by video issues. So soon I'll be able to add some clips of my own. I'm going to have to get some capturing and editing done first, but it'll

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With the first day's formal activities complete it was time to move on to the evening's scattered brou-ha-ha. I mixed up my evening with a variety of events, organized, un-organized and downright disorganized.Upon leaving the convention centre I headed up to Paul and my room. He was diligently hammering away at his keyboard, putting together material for his blog on TAM. He was publishing live

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One of the things I underestimated about TAM was just how populated it is by the blinding-light deities of skepticism. You could throw a rock and hit a prominent skeptic. Truly. Having been in the entertainment industry for pretty much my entire adult life means that by now I've largely overcome the sensation of being star-struck. But I've got to say that at TAM I was overcome by it more

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Presumably, if you are reading this blog you are doing so because you already have an interest in critical thinking and if you already have an interest in critical thinking then you more than likely already know at least a little about the Anti-vaccination movement. It may actually be the most important clearly cut battle that we are fighting today. There are others that are important. I believe

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There were a number of really inspiring moments at TAM for me, but the first and possibly greatest was Jennifer Ouellette's presentation on Friday.Before I get into her presentation it is probably worth contextualizing my own position in the skeptical world. I – if you've been reading much you know this – am an artist. A film-maker specifically. And frankly, my business is rife with woo. Yes,

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Holy smoke this is taking forever!One month ago tomorrow marks the one month "annniversary" (Why do people use that word? It's latin root is (off the top of my head) 'annum' which means 'year'.) of the opening of TAM7.I'm still not finished the first full day! I still have a substantial portion of Friday, all of Saturday and then Sunday to report on. Sigh.I have been very distracted by a

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Coming off a lunch that was a bit confused – ‘chaotic’ would not be fair – we were treated with a discussion between Jamy Ian Swiss and James Randi. It was in many ways a bit of a palate cleanser. One of the lighter portions of the day. I didn’t really get the opportunity to pay close attention to the beginning of the presentation as I was wrapping up my duties at the SkeptiCamp table.The intent

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I'm preparing a post about the next portion of TAM 7 – which was a discussion between Jamy Ian Swiss and James Randi accompanied by various video clips.I'm trying to see if I can find any of the clips on line. Not having much luck thus far, honestly. But I did find this.Randi speaking briefly at the opening reception.Once again I am WAY out of sequence.

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Next up, Phil Plait talked briefly about JREF scholarships. If memory serves, there were over 40 of them - more than 40 people attending TAM on scholarship. 4% - I'd call that pretty good, myself.He then turned the floor over to Robert Lancaster.I have to admit that this is where writing gets tough. I feel like a bit of an ass talking about it at all, but I really want to make some effort to tell

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Dear me, this IS going slowly. I shouldn't be too surprised I suppose. I do have a lot on my plate. Starting the Asshole Skeptic blog; finishing Beast of Bottomless Lake; doing final re-writes on another project; having a life; earning a living – the list goes on.Here we are two full weeks after TAM (At about this exact hour two weeks ago I was standing in line at McCarran airport wondering

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Not much to say here. The JREF has released the video of the Connie Sonne MDC preliminary test.I'm linking them here for ease of reference to my other post about it.PART 1 PART 2 PART 3 PART 4 Riveting, huh?And the press conference on Skeptic Zone #40

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Finally, after much Tarantinoesque discontinuity, here I am at the beginning.At roughly 9am Hal Bidlack took the stage announcing himself as the host (as he is every year) for the next 55 hours worth of content.He did a quick straw poll of how many people were attending TAM for the first time.The answer – a lot. Somewhere between a third and half. I expect that a lot of Trans-Atlantic skeptics

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Okay, so clearly I am an unreliable liar.I'm skipping ahead again... though only barely this time.I'm skipping Hal Bidlack's emcee greeting, and Phil Plait & James Randi's combined opening president & founder's address and going right to the Keynote speaker – Bill Prady.I'm skipping ahead because Bill Prady's keynote has been causing not a small amount of controversy on-line in the past few days.

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Previously in this blog I did an entry about my thoughts on "Asshole Skepticism" and when I was at TAM I found myself in a number of conversations about the idea. It was an interesting mix of views. Some of my thoughts were echoed, some were expanded upon, some were recieved with caution and others were refuted - occassionally with a vehemence that was an ironic display of, you guessed it,

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Once again my intention to move sequentially has been scuttled by a lack of foresight. Because the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe was recorded over the course of Friday and Saturday morning breakfasts, and the entire show was posted in their podcast feed today, I'll cover both in one shot here and now.Friday morning began really early.I dragged myself out of bed around 6:30 am after having laid

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The Amazing Meeting wrapped up with a live "Million Dollar Challenge."I'm skipping ahead to it for a variety of reasons – for starters, it's the part of the conference that has garnered the most attention on the JREF forums; so there is a lot of dialogue out there about it already.As I explain in the video diary entry, we weren't allowed recording devices in the room so it's the one part of the

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Okay, so my experiment is a bit off the rails.The audio I have is unpublishable – which is okay, I can still use it as a guide for writing about the conference, but not ideal.The video I took is... who knows... I'm a bit in a corner on it as I'm having a technical issue – not an insurmountable one, but a very real one. How dare firewire become obsolete? It could be weeks before I capture the

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The day after returning from The Amazing Meeting I was interviewed on Radio Freethinkers.All episodes appear on the feed page, so the longer after the publish date of this post, the further down the page you'll have to scroll. For (relative) ease it's the July 14th 2009 episode, episode #17.It was their cryptozoology episode, so naturally we talked about The Beast of Bottomless Lake.

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Jodie messaged me this morning asking if I felt like my 'vacation' had lasted longer than four days. While I enjoyed the hell out of my long weekend, it doesn't really match my definition of 'vacation.'I've already mentioned that sleep has been a precious commodity for me this past week. Last night I finally slept solidly more than four hours – six in fact and that leaves me feeling positively

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I mentioned this earlier. I don't want to post any extended clips that I videoed as it was clearly stated that any recordoing was to be for personal use only. So here's the link from the USTREAM broadcast of the event.It's the Saturday Morning Skeptics Guide to the Universe taping. It begins with Jay's ghost hunting parody movie, and then Rebecca Watson being ambushed in the Q & A session at

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Made it.So much to catch up on.Could have frikken Twittered this.

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I'm sick of the noise of Vegas. The incessant slot machine racket and the boorish yahoos behind me who I'm guessing are leftovers from the UFC event last night. Why won't they all just shut up!?!?!And the flight is delayed. It's going to be dodgy making it to our connecting flight.

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Don't get me wrong. TAM was a LOT of fun. But it was not without issues – like the one which has prevented me from blogging pretty much throughout.I have kept a lot of notes and have a wealth of media from it to get around to posting, but it's going to take some time to organize it all.I will try to start posting immediately. I'll keep it accurate as possible and try to recapture my emotional

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Okay... that was cool.So the short version is:Our room number is 2012 and everyone thinks that's funny.I walked right into Brian Brushwood at the opening reception. Had an excellent chat about passionate skepticism and podcasting and magic.At the Canadian contingent meeting Paul was a star. His professional trials stole the show. A BIG round of applause. Very cool.Screened "Beast" to about a

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Go figure.The end of the Mayan calendar. Hysterical.At least it'll be easy for people to remember the room number for the "Beast..." screening – 8:30 tonight, simultaneous to the magic show.Have already shook hands with Yau-Man Chan and introduced myself to Joe Nickell (he recalled hearing about the movie – tied it to Moby Dick, proving his knowledge) had a good but short chat.Seen a few other

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The flight is filled with people attending the big UFC event in Vegas. I got lucky. Many of these folks are BIG. Not too many are the pound-packing tubs'o'lard that I really hate sitting beside, but a lot are heavily muscled pound-packers who look to be wanna be Brock Lesnars. No, I'm the widest load in these three seats.Got lucky and got the window seat. The lady at check-in told me it was

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Checking in... no line up.Immigration... no line up at any of the three stages.Security... no line up.Tim Horton's coffee... 20 minute line up.I've twittered my arrival time for McCarran and hoping someone identifies my t-shirt at the Airport and we can share a cab. I found out too late that reservations for the shuttle need to be made 24 hours in advance – DOH! Called to reserve and they

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Couldn't sleep 'til after 2am and I still woke up of my own accord before 6. I'm more anxious/excited than I realized. Fortunately I am able to function quite well on less than six hours of sleep a night for weeks on end. Eventually I crash and catch up, whether it's on my terms or not, but I'm far from that point this weekend as it happened last on this past Sunday.Got up and took care of a

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I've found out a few things over the last day that will get in the way of doing this smoothly, but I guess that's just part of the learning curve...For starters - and this is really just common sense and not really a surprise:The sessions in the conference while allowing for recording, those recordings are intended to be used for personal use only. Totally understandable, that one. That will

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Funny that I should come across this the same day I made my previous post...THOSE EYESSome good fictional skepticism from one of my favourite authors, David Brin. I'm not too jazzed on the 'alien voice' in the reading - it's annoying to listen to.And as for the 'asshole skeptic' opinion of the host at the end... well that's jsut a touch of irony.

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I used to think of myself as a 'bad skeptic' – actually I AM a bad skeptic in a host of ways, but that's beside the point. I used to think of myself as that particular type of bad skeptic that can't express their skeptical opinions without coming across as a dickhead.This is a pretty common stage for freshly minted skeptics to go through, so I don't feel particularly self-victimized or otherwise

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I figured that this was a personal story and that it would be better suited for a (rather long-winded) video diary. I had to put the process to the test at some point, better now than at TAM.It's a quick overview of how I became a skeptic.Despite what I say in the beginning of it... I really hope I can get better quality down the line. YUCK!

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If it's below you: It's a Lake MonsterIf it's on the ground: It's a SasquatchIf it's floating above the ground: It's a GhostIf it's between your head and the clouds: It's a UFOIf it's beyond that: It's God

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I don't know what's up with my webcam, but it is suddenly not behaving. Hopefully I can solve this before next Thursday. If not there are some work arounds - I do have two other video options available - just not as convenient for immediate personal recording and posting.For some reason when I turn it on it spends a moment in the standard recording mode, then after a few seconds it switches to

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There is little doubt that my schedule will morph over the course of the weekend, and really, I'm not sure what the point of posting it in advance here is, but just for yuks...I'll be departing Vancouver Thursday morning (less than a week to go now!) - arriving in Las Vegas a little after 1pm. By that time the Science Based Medicine Conference will be well under-way. It's a bit of an add-on to

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Brian Brushwood has done interviews on two of the major skeptical podcasts in the past week. I've been watching his podcast - Scam School - for months now. I enjoy trying to figure out the puzzles myself (and usually fail). I try to learn all the card tricks... I'm lousy at card tricks, but I can (and do) carry a deck of cards with me all the time, 'cause you never know when a card trick will

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I've been aware of TAM for about a year and a half now – roughly as long as I've been aware that there is a (semi-orgainized) skeptical movement in the world.I considered going last year, though I can't recall exactly why I didn't... I think (ironically) because I thought I was too busy with my movie. So here is it a year later and I'm in the final weeks of post-production on the film and I'm

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Okay, so while I'm screwing around playing with new ideas...About once a week a new idea for a funny and smart skeptical slogan hits me.I often think that I'd like a T-shirt with whatever the slogan of the day is, and maybe someone else would like them too.I've never done anything about it... until now. So I guess this is as good a place as any to get into some crass mercantilism. Maybe I'll

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That was an un-necessary nightmare.So after more than a half day of struggling with trying to bend Wordpress to my will, I am back here on blogger. I could probably spend a lot of time detailing the absurdity of how ineffective Wordpress was for my uses, and much of it could probably be summed up with the notion 'stick with what you know.' Given those options I'll take the latter.So here I am

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In ten days time I'll be leaving Vancouver for Vegas to attend TAM7 - a.k.a. The Amazing Meeting.Over the past few years, like many people, I have accumulated a metric fuck-ton of media devices. Well... perhaps 'fuck-ton' is an exaggeration. The fact is that I can carry everything relatively comfortably in a small backpack. In theory I could operate as a one man crew to do a variety of

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